J Shell is joined by George Wuerthner, who is a professional photographer, writer and ecologist. George has written more than two dozen books on natural history and other environmental topics, including Keeping the Wild: Against the Domestication of Earth. He is a Board member of a number of environmental organizations and is currently the Executive Director of Public Lands Media and a founding member of the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance. We talk today about Plans that are mandated for National Forests and specifically about the recently released plan for the Custer Gallatin National Forest, just to the north of Yellowstone National Park.