Tate Chamberlin sat down with Dave Atkins, a forest ecologist turned publisher who has worked across the western US for the past 40 years. Dave strives to find the balance between environmental protection and function, economic sustainability, and social needs when thinking about how to create a better world. He’ll be joining us again in May to lend his expertise surrounding wildfires, which we begin discussing during this podcast. How do we live with fire and use it effectively? How do we bear in mind the necessity to fulfill our individual and most basic needs, while also understanding our actions affect our community and environment? Can we achieve a balance?