Jay does a two-part interview with Myles Traphagen, the Borderlands Program Coordinator for the Wildlands Network. Myles keeps tabs on the Border Wall that has been partially completed along the 1954 border with Mexico. In these two interviews, he talks about the consequences in the region of the Border Wall and its effects on wildlife and plant life all along the border – and the efforts of Wildlands Network and other allied NGOs, tribal groups and communities to reverse these effects.