Jay’s guest is George Wuerthner, an ecologist, writer, photographer who has studied, written about, and photographed natural habitats in many American locales, especially the mountains of the eastern U.S., the lake region of Minnesota, the Sierras, the Cascades, and the Rocky Mountains of the west. Holds degrees from the University of Montana and University of California Santa Cruz, and graduate work at MSU and U of Oregon. He’s worked in many places in the U.S., border to border, and he specializes in studying predators. He is the author of 38 books and innumerable articles. He recently published an article about the need to expand Yellowstone National Park to embrace the much larger Greater Yellowstone ecosystem.

The interview is in two parts.