Jay interviews Kieran Suckling, Founder and Executive Director of the Center for Biological Diversity, headquartered in Tucson, Arizona. He studied computer science and mathematics at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Columbia University and Stanford University. He holds degrees in philosophy from the State University of New York at Stonybrook (a master’s) and College of the Holy Cross (a bachelor’s) focused on Greek, continental, linguistic and environmental thought. In addition to overseeing the Center’s conservation, finance, fundraising and administration programs, he writes and lectures on the threats to, preservation of, and relationships between cultural and biological diversity. He also maintains the most comprehensive endangered species research and management database in the United States. CBD, with nearly 70 employees, is one of the most aggressive supporters of NEPA and the Environmental Species Act and has been quite successful in the enforcement of environmental laws.